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I wanted to know whether it is possible to make a proper living/professional career using HPA's Tuning course. I am 18 and a newbie at this, need some advice from fellow HPA members and the team. Currently doing the engine building course.
It's like any other business. You have to find clients and get your name out there. You will have to probably start with your own car and get involved in some kind of community of owners. If everybody drives HiLux trucks out there, maybe you get a HiLux and start tuning that. Or whatever the popular platforms might be over there (some kind of VW vehicle, etc). Here in the US there are tons of Mustangs and Camaros or Subarus so that's an easy way to get in due to the big market, but there's also a lot of competition and shops everywhere.
I've never been to Kenya but I'm guessing it's a major growth market and you won't have to compete with a ton of really established players.
Thanks for your reply.
Here in Kenya,to be totally honest, we have Evos stis and a few gtrs r35s.
Not many Professional tuners (With dynos and all the gear) but we have 2 in the city I live in, Actually the only 2 in the whole country.
I don't have a car at the moment as i mentioned earlier that i've just recently turned 18, and unlike US we need to be 18 instead of 16 to start driving.
Only issue is that due lack of tuners,we have most used performance cars molested. And thus the reason why I am hesitant to buy a project/learning car:(
Also my main question was, is the amount of knowledge from HPA sufficient?
Thanks in advance !
I would strongly say that yes, it is possible to turn this into a career. I essentially did exactly that with my own tuning business here in NZ which grew to be a world class operation which lay claim to several world records. At the time there was no resource like HPA and I had to learn by trial and error, along with the limited resources that were available at the time. HPA if anything would have significantly fast tracked my learning.
Like any skill, tuning is one that will require practice to become proficient in. There's the 10,000 hour rule which states that any skill requires 10,000 hours of practice to reach the level of mastery and I believe this is true for tuning. HPA won't replace that 10,000 hours but will certainly fast track your learning curve. Beyond this you also need to consider your market and how much money is being spent in that market on car modification, what cars are being modified, how big the market is, and how much competition there is. Once you've analysed these aspects you can make an informed decision about the likely success of an automotive/tuning business.
Thank you Andre for your reply.
I greatly appreciate your advice and I'll follow them through!
More advises from other members will be appreciated too :)
Good start mate, I recon automotive electrical and electronics is a good foundation, HPA team also got these courses make sure you take that too, it is a good investment.
If you focus on building skill now then eventually the business opportunities will show up. It's hard to explain, but it just sort of happens as you put yourself out there on a daily basis tuning your cars and helping friends. It kind of feels like nothing is happening for a while, until suddenly people start coming to you to tune their cars. Then at that point you have to start getting a business mind of what kind of service do you want to offer.
@Arghx7 aren't you the guy from rx7club? :-) just happen to remember your username (if i'm correct hat is..)
yup, that's me :)
I would definitely follow the advice above concerning finding a specific platform and getting to know it. Especially as it relates to re-flash tuning respectfully I would suggest this content is not enough to competently tune all cars. No-where close as it relates to the late model OEMs. If your only concerned with minor modifications and using the vast majority of an oem calibration this information is great for dialing in adjustments to spark and fuel. The courses also helps you understand basics with VVT etc.
But if you think your going to be able to jump in and tackle non oem power adders, return fuel systems, transmission and shift optimizations I'm afraid you will be disappointed. Your going to need a great deal of knowledge about each platform, its OEM calibration, what sensors and PID's are available, and what may be inferred and how / why. How does each car manage torque, and drive by wire etc.
Trying to wrap your head around the different implementations of virtual VE and how each manufacture uses it can be a pain in the butt.
Frankly I suspect tuning for racing or the track is easier than digging into OEM calibrations and dealing with Evap, Cat over temp, and other functionality within the OS/Strategy that ultimately effect daily driving. I also think this is why so many people complain about their third party tunes and how they actually drive on the street.
I have recently gotten into the habit of reading everything possible from Greg Banish and listening to people like him and Andre. Arghx7clearly knows his stuff too. I do absolutely think the content is worth the cost, and if nothing else you have access to the forums and the webinars. I love the webinars.
@superman07 - I'll agree that our reflash course isn't going to turn you into an expert on every platform and that is definitely not its intention. As you've correctly pointed out, often reflashing an OE ECU is more complex than tuning a standalone and there is a lot to learn about each specific platform.
What I think is important to point out though is that in my own experience most tuners specialising in reflashing are dealing with basic modifications such as intake, exhaust and headers, and this doesn't require comprehensive knowledge of every table and function. With these sort of modifications, often the tuning process is incredibly easy because once the MAF is correctly scaled, the actual fuel and ignition tuning process is very quick and easy to complete. It's this sort of tuning job that our course is really designed to help tuners with. The number of tuners looking to do stroker kits, large cams, and superchargers or turbo kits are firmly in the minority. That being said, we've just purchased a LS2-based project car to provide worked examples on cam tuning.
Cant wait to see it.
I ended up going with a Whipple 2.9 Gen 3. First step is to modify the Ford Performance / Whipple tune with new Injector data then verify / tweak the MAF and fuel with effectively the same torque curve VS stock. Then add the Long tubes and exhaust and try to simply tweak the Torque tables and PE to my driving style. I found a guy that has done a ton of Fords with a good reputation. He has agreed to help me and let me use MY own HP Tuners license and keep an unlocked file / tune. When I have the funds I will tweak the fuel system and adjust timing further and re-calibrate the car for Corn.