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I'm considering running my dual Bosch 044 pumps via pwm control from the ecu.
I'm looking at reducing both pumps to 50% at idle / low load and increasing output as load increases.
I'm wanting to avoid the fuel heating and noise issues associated with running the pumps at 100% all the time.
I'm interested if anyone has had any specific experience using pwm control with 044's and if they had any issues or reliability problems with running the pumps like this.
You can't directly PWM control the pumps. This needs to be done through a speed control module such as the Motec DHB controller. If you were using a conventional relay you won't be able to modulate it fast enough to get any real control.
Many late model cars of course now incorporate fuel pump speed controllers which can be functioned via the ECU. The downside is that often these aren't designed for high performance use and hence they may not be able to provide sufficient current to support a high flow fuel pump.
I didn't explain that I'm looking at controlling the pumps through a solid state relay like the jaycar sy4086.
The 044 pumps are a durable pump but I'm not sure how they handle lower voltages.
An engine cooling fan controller should work.
Ah that makes more sense. Yes a solid state relay should work in that application. I don't see any potential risk or problem with delivering the pumps a lower voltage. They will simply operate slower and at some point the flow will not be sufficient to match demand and the fuel pressure will drop.
You're right Dynodom, any device designed for speed control on a DC motor will do the job. My concern is more centred around the devices maximum current capability. While a Bosh 044 pump is only likely to draw 10-12 or so amps , some of the larger pumps on the market can exceed 20 amps and I would be worried about the chance of a fan controller (or a factory fuel pump speed controller) handling that. Of course we are only likely to want to speed control a pump when it's a big one too so that makes this concern more relevant.
Hi Marty how did you go with jaycar solid state relay?
Why don't you just get one in tank pump? You've got a Walbro 400 and other really high flow pumps. Why are you so worried about fuel temperatures? That's mostly an emissions issue. What engine is this, what is done to it, and what fuel?
Any high flow pump is going to make extra heat by circulating more fuel then the engine will use. He has 2 044 pumps most probably connected to a surge tank. So a single intank won’t cut it.
A lot of Australians are running surge tanks with dual 044 pumps for high boost rotary/4s where the in tank single performance curve doesn't really cut it at the base+boost pressure for big power levels or they want a surge tank, for some reason walbro doesn't have an inline version of the 450l/h pump (perhaps that is a thermal management thing?). In rx7s at least fuel surge is a known killer and the new b2a kit is the only off the sheft in tank surge I'm aware of. There are quite a few people running those SSRs for that purpose, haltech were even rebranding them?